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Meeting Minutes

MINUTES OF REGULAR MEETING
September 13, 2001, 7:30PM, Township Building

Members Present: Ken Claar (Chair), Walt DeWitt, Jim McGovern (Vice-chair), Hans Peters (Secretary)
Absent: Cheryl Miller
Guest: Supervisor Estelle Brager

SOUTHAMPTON WATERSHED ASSOCIATION

Walt reported that the mailing went out on schedule, the slight glitch of running short of brochures having been corrected. The township residents who receive their mail from the Huntingdon Valley post office will receive their mailing a bit later because it went out on Monday.

An e-mail has been received from our advisor Joe Schlosser pointing out some details regarding our funding, the primary one being that we will need to submit our quarterly report on time. Hans agreed to follow up on this.

Jim and Ken will purchase refreshments and name tags.

Ann Smith has not yet submitted her outline. Walt will contact her.

Jim has talked with Claudine Fritz about the brainstorming session. The will co-chair using the "Ishikawa" method. Suggested items are placed on the board in a fishbone layout and later all present are given input to ordering priorities.

The agenda was revised, after some discussion, to read as follows:

  • Sign-in at door, attenders get handout packet
  • 7:05 Opening remarks, Hans (Introduce EAC and guests, outline problems of development, flooding, pollution, NRAB efforts, need for a watershed association, grant history, etc.).
  • 7:10 Intro to SWA, Walt (philosophy, mission, goals and intent of SWA, stress that there are other issues besides stormwater, etc.).
  • 7:15 Speaker, Ann Smith (topics may include: how citizen involvement can make a difference, what are the functions of a watershed, how to maintain stream health, watershed association success stories, etc. Interactive w/ attenders.
  • 7:45 Brainstorming session, Jim and Claudine Fritz ("Ishikawa" method as noted above).
  • 8:15 Refreshment break (encourage people to fill out and turn in questionnaires before leaving).
  • 8:30 Panel discussion, Ann Smith, Claudine Fritz, Mark Eberle, Rachel Mayette (pertinent comments at the discretion of panelists. Speakers or EAC members might answer questions).
  • 8:50 Closing remarks, Ken (wrap-up, encourage involvement, ask that questionnaires be filled out, announce next meeting date, etc.).
  • 9:00 Adjournment

Ken agreed to be timekeeper, and to prepare the sign-in sheet.

Having a table at Tamanend Park Days is no longer an option due to the late date and the abscence of anyone willing to staff it.

All agreed to arrive by 6:15 on 9/24 if possible to take care of any last minute preparations. At our next meeting we will checklights, tables, and layout.

EAC BUSINESS

Walt plans to attend a meeting of the Upper Dublin EAC.

Jim suggested that a set of guidelines based on EAC mandates should be prepared.

DEVELOPMENT PLANS

Ken will discuss with Rich Sabol whether we can establish a way of getting feedback from the Planning Commission and the Board of Supervisors on our comments and concerns. Hans agreed to talk to the Planning Commission.

Ken also agreed to research the maximum allowable impervious surface and whether and how it is tied to zoning, lot size or other factors.

The following comments will also appear on seprate memos to be attached to the plans.

  • Clara Cole, TMP 48--019-005-1 and 48-15-41
    We appreciate that our primary concern, the watercourse within the construction envelope on lot #1 has been addressed by making the watercourse a boundary of the envelope.

    Our other concern remains, i.e. the fact that any addition of impervious surface places an additional strain on the surrounding soil to absorb runoff in a township already beset by numerous stormwater management problems. We recommend the use of pervious paving wherever possible.

  • Jakob Place, TMP 48-017-020
    The amount of impervious surface added by this development exceeds what we believe would be acceptable even without the flooding problems present throughout the township. The use of pervious paving is recommended as a bare minimum.

The detention basin does not appear to be of a design that will function well. The outlet appears to dump water almost immediately across the line onto the adjacent property. Also the need for a low flow channel, which creates additional impervious surface, is unclear.

The meeting adjourned at approximately 8:40PM.
NEXT SPECIAL MEETING: Wednesday, September 19, 2001, 7:30 PM, Township Building.
NEXT REGULAR MEETING: Thursday, October 11, 2001, 7:30PM, Township Building.

Respectfully,
Hans Peters, Secretary

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